So Huh- I just followed the patreon link in the creator's Twitter and I found an account of a girl selling her pics? Did the creator changed her view on the project or is it a mistake or she just wants to lead an only fans from now on instead of the game...? Idk it's almost comical, If someone knows anything please answer lol
I'm on the discord, haven't checked recently, however Hiddenwall was trying to get school / university work finished and they want to get back into the VN. Just IRL stuff has been taking up a lot of time. Patreon payments have been paused for a good number of months, so the VN isn't cancelled just on a bit of hiatus.
Last update I saw was on 18th Aug, was about trying to get college / schoolwork down and because of the stress they were pretty unmotivated to work on the VN.
HOWEVER, they want to get back to working on it etc. So it's not dead, just IRL stuff in the way.
Yeah this is abandoned, Hiddenwall has always been EXTREMELY lazy when it comes to making content he gets paid for but this is definitely just straight up abandoned now, sorry to everyone who liked this game.
Just a heads up. I checked the patreon and the last update was about artwork for a new character (side character I'm assuming?) and that was January 2nd 2024. The discord link isn't valid so I wasn't sure if anyone knew if there were any more recent updates. I really like this VN but it's been over a year since the last update. I hope everything is ok.
The discord update channel hasn't had a post since 16/1/24 and it was a warning about hacked accounts and people following dodgy links. The last time someone joined the discord was 20/8/24.
Heyy is there some way I could join the discord? It's kind of sad how abandoned this game is, and it would be really good to be in contact with people who actually care or maybe someone who knows smt about it :c
It was one of my favorite games for a while, and it would be shamr if it's really abandoned forever
No idea, i don't use discord much, think i only made one at first because of taven of spear. But two people joined 1/10/24 so there must be a link somewhere out there.
I need help downloading the game. It says the download supports linux but when I go to downloads it says it cannot find any compatible downloads. Anyone know what to do?
Considering the last time hidenwall mentioned trying to get an update out was in december, i dont know where you got that idea from. Also don't know for sure but the next public build will probably be the current patreon build which is build 1.06 Leandros chapter 9.
Why would you dream about that..? There is not a single moment that you could base an assumption that they could ever be nonviolent towards the MC and Koshiro, they are never anything less than a threat and a risk?
honestly I find Hyosuke to be personally very interesting. There’s a lot of possibility in the character to have a lot more depth and understanding while keeping with his basic character if written properly. (And honestly, I still found him more bearable than Ramos 😅😅)
Sure, he might be interesting, but there's absolutely nothing about him that would make for a healthy relationship. Most people might be more bearable than Ramos, but if you think Hyosuke is somehow better just like... reread any of the scenes he's in? Especially the one in the abandoned village.
its free, no downloads and just plays in the browser. It has some issues, ramos's personality is odd with him knowing who you are even if it's the first time you've met him or being overly romantic. But i don't think it's that bad, leandros is pretty good. If you want it smutty, when you're playing click the little gear in the top right and change the the safety setting in the gameplay tab.
Last update was on June of 2023 on patron and July of 2023 here. Its mostly been a year since the last update. Will this VN go to the dumps or will we get an update?
Hiddenwall mentioned trying to get a build out over winter holidays since school would be out, but i guess that things ended up getting in the way as they've paused their patreon payments and have been silent for the last few months.
Absolutely fantastic game! Truly one of my all time favorites. I played this entire game (all three paths!) for the first time two years ago, somewhere between 40-50 hours, but lost all of that progress with my old laptop. I just recently replayed it, nervous that it wouldn't be as good as I remembered it to be, but the story, characters, and world are so fantastic, and the amount of genuinely important choices is absolutely astounding; so much more than just the three main romance paths!
My only (minor) issue is a completely subjective, personal ick with stories where an otherwise pragmatic or experienced person close to the protagonist lies/tricks/misleads them under the guise of protecting them in a way that leaves them more vulnerable, especially when it's something related to their self-defense, and refuses to think about the worst case scenario? (It sounds specific, but it's actually pretty common lol). Like, knowledge is power and prepare for the worst case scenario and better to have something but not need it than not have something needed and all that, which is something that someone supposedly an experienced and skilled strategist should know.
I just wanna clarify that this is a very small gripe I have, despite its length, and I am just a very wordy overthinker, so please read knowing that I love literally everything else about this game (besides not being able to date everyone lmao). Also, I disagree with previous comments talking about the MC being unlikeable, so this isn't about that either.
Anyways, I understand why the player's dad and Leandros didn't let the protag actually learn how to fight, that's well explained and I get that it's part of both the protag and Leandros' whole character and stuff, but it just personally bothers me that the protag never actually caught on, for years?The protag never watched Leandros or other guards sparring, or overheard the other guards talking about Leandros being easy on his training, or even just that he is still so outmatched by Leandros despite training together for years since they were children? I know that he's not human and older and specifically tricking him, and the protag can't train as much as he can, but he's still a novice and never noticed? The main character sneaks past the guards to escape that castle to watch gladiator fights, but apparently hasn't ever sparred with any other guard besides Leandros, doesn't seem to have ever wanted to, and never picked up either any hint of this or any techniques from them? And even the pragmatic and more pessimistic Koshiro had absolutely nothing to say about this, just completely went along with it? Like, it would be like if someone really wanted to play a sport but were only allowed to play against one specific professional athlete for years despite being surrounded by other professionals, snuck out to secretly go watch live games, and never picked up on the fact that they're an amateur. It really feels like the protag should have either figured out before all this that Leandros was going easy on him (at least after seeing a few real gladiator fights), or be at least slightly better than they are in the game.
Once again, however, I wanna say that this is really not the biggest deal. I've literally played this game for DOZENS of hours at this point, and something as small as this is the one and only thing that annoys me a little, and it basically just makes me roll my eyes whenever it comes up before I move on and am full sucked back into this amazing story and game.
It never for a second crossed my mind to rate this anything besides five stars, and I'd rate it even higher if I could!!
Ive been playing for some time (ofc i took leandros path) and all i wanted to say is this Visual Novel is one of the very few that really made me feel the emotions the Main character actually felt, i cried, i was happy, i was sad, i was devastated, and many more emotions, if i get to the end of the free version i will most definitely buy patreon and look forward to the newest versions. Also i'd like to praise all of the people who took part in making this game
Edit: also how much chapters will this game have? If you can tell ofc (unless i missed the info somewhere)
Not gonna lie, protagonist makes it very hard to tear throught this vn. He is so completely unlikable it is very hard to be invested in his struggles or journey. Prince Rowan from The Silercrest Pilgrimage is a much better example of a similar archetype.
I mean. he's a spoiled prince of a prosperous kingdom. one who has had some trauma via the loss of one parent and distance of another. yeah he's gonna be a frustrating little shit at times but he isn't without his redeeming qualities. I think it'll be interesting to watch how he grows through each route^^
Also, given its still in development. I imagine there will probably be a point where things get combed over and refined, potentially even revised. only time will tell.
Tragic backstory doesn’t give a character a shield to be piece of shit, sadly, and so far I haven’t seen even one redeeming quality of his. At this point for me in order to like Katan he has to undergo a redemption arc on the level of Kuzco or Luke von Fabre and Im really not sure i will have patience to stick around to find out if he is going to undergo it at all.
Frankly the VN hasn't gotten very far imo so he has time. Character growth needs time to happen organically in some stories, not every protagonist just flips a switch and becomes bearable after a couple things go down.
I really don't know how or why I should be invested in a growth of a character who needs unknown amount of time only to become *bearable* (and the fact that a vn that was in development since forever still haven't gotten very far is its own separate can of worms). I will just go and read better stories with characters I actually want to root for instead.
True, but there's still VN which it's the opposite, there's lyre, TOS, LD(I know these game are RPG like), but yeah, it makes the VN bland, no hate ofc, I'm just saying
bro, FVNs just ain't for you if you just dumb it down to just that.. i can suggest In Finite Space, One Last Night, Dog x Bloods, Demons Within, Undefeated, Pervader and Blossom City if you really wanted to find VNs that lack the things you dislike... but after that, you probably need to drop reading FVNs because you're going to struggle to find a VN out there to read in which it suits your tastes.. go read an anime or something, or watch a manga instead.. and i particularly love listening to edgy light novels.. go check them out..
I just love this VN! I love how the mc personality has some minor changes depending on which route you are taking, specially loved how spoiled he is with Ramos, the contrast between his spoiled self with ramos personality it's really fun to watch and the spicy scenes with him are amazing, seeing a spoiled prince being slutty its always fun, cant wait to see ramos next build, hope we still can get it this year or maybe in january <3
I am loving the game, the moment I laid eyes on Koshiro I knew he was the one and I am having a blast going through his route. There is something about him that I just find really cute and innocent in a way.
This is my favorite VN, I've read it so many times that I lost count, I always follow Leandros' route, he's so interesting, hardworking and cute. I hope Leon gets a happy ending with the main character, who better to be king than a lion? ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
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So Huh- I just followed the patreon link in the creator's Twitter and I found an account of a girl selling her pics? Did the creator changed her view on the project or is it a mistake or she just wants to lead an only fans from now on instead of the game...? Idk it's almost comical, If someone knows anything please answer lol
I really hope this VN doesn't get cancelled.
Just found this. Might download later but the fox guy looks fun. Could be wrong though.
His name is Koshiro, and he *is* fun. :3
I love Ramos' route so much. I can't wait to see more of him
Me too.
Me three, but given how this VN has been abandoned for over a year now, I no longer expect it to be updated or finished.
These VN creators with poor work ethic are becoming annoying. If you are not going to finish the project, don't post it.
Since I joined itch io, there have been 75 VNs I have read. Of those, 45 have been abandoned and only 3 have been completed.
I'm on the discord, haven't checked recently, however Hiddenwall was trying to get school / university work finished and they want to get back into the VN. Just IRL stuff has been taking up a lot of time. Patreon payments have been paused for a good number of months, so the VN isn't cancelled just on a bit of hiatus.
Fiu, that's a relief.
Very understandable the hiatus. I hope the guy is well enough to continue.
It's good to know that it hasn't been canceled! Though, How long ago did HiddenWall say that? I thought the creator was completely disappeared
Last update I saw was on 18th Aug, was about trying to get college / schoolwork down and because of the stress they were pretty unmotivated to work on the VN.
HOWEVER, they want to get back to working on it etc. So it's not dead, just IRL stuff in the way.
Yeah this is abandoned, Hiddenwall has always been EXTREMELY lazy when it comes to making content he gets paid for but this is definitely just straight up abandoned now, sorry to everyone who liked this game.
Sad to know. Still hope he keeps on with, at least to make closure of the game.
Im never gonna be able to see what happens with koshiro:(....
Or any of the other characters.
Just a heads up. I checked the patreon and the last update was about artwork for a new character (side character I'm assuming?) and that was January 2nd 2024. The discord link isn't valid so I wasn't sure if anyone knew if there were any more recent updates. I really like this VN but it's been over a year since the last update. I hope everything is ok.
The discord update channel hasn't had a post since 16/1/24 and it was a warning about hacked accounts and people following dodgy links. The last time someone joined the discord was 20/8/24.
Heyy is there some way I could join the discord? It's kind of sad how abandoned this game is, and it would be really good to be in contact with people who actually care or maybe someone who knows smt about it :c
It was one of my favorite games for a while, and it would be shamr if it's really abandoned forever
No idea, i don't use discord much, think i only made one at first because of taven of spear. But two people joined 1/10/24 so there must be a link somewhere out there.
At what point will I get called insane for continuously checking on updates for this vn and why am I long past that point?
I just paid for the 1.06 build for the game. I dont see any new cgs or outfits for the 3 characters in rose cathedral. I only see one new koshiro cg.
I keep re-reading it hoping something new will happen
Is it really going to be 1 update per 1 year-eternity on itch.io?
I need help downloading the game. It says the download supports linux but when I go to downloads it says it cannot find any compatible downloads. Anyone know what to do?
Does the Win/Linux build not work for you?
I don't use Linux myself but I know that some distros of Linux are picky.
Where is the koshiro update? Could of sworn it was supposed to be out months ago?
Considering the last time hidenwall mentioned trying to get an update out was in december, i dont know where you got that idea from. Also don't know for sure but the next public build will probably be the current patreon build which is build 1.06 Leandros chapter 9.
I'd love for possible a route where we fix Hyosuke and end up in a polycule with him and Koshiro :3
Alternatively I'd love to see a route where Hyouske makes me worse >w>
Real!!!
That's the singular most delusional thing you could expect to happen in this game. Why on earth? If its just because the sprite is hot, just say that.
Just let me dream ;-;
Why would you dream about that..? There is not a single moment that you could base an assumption that they could ever be nonviolent towards the MC and Koshiro, they are never anything less than a threat and a risk?
Is it like just because they've got a hot sprite
Wait till you find out what a fanfic is
I know what one is, if you've got one I'd love a link!
Love me a man who's a walking red flag, especially in fiction and even more if he is hot
honestly I find Hyosuke to be personally very interesting. There’s a lot of possibility in the character to have a lot more depth and understanding while keeping with his basic character if written properly.
(And honestly, I still found him more bearable than Ramos 😅😅)
Sure, he might be interesting, but there's absolutely nothing about him that would make for a healthy relationship. Most people might be more bearable than Ramos, but if you think Hyosuke is somehow better just like... reread any of the scenes he's in? Especially the one in the abandoned village.
I have a question is there a way to unlock the "wait for help" in seshiro house?
pretty sure thats a route that hasnt been finished yet
Plss update I want koshiro and leandros update!!
God I hope you start updating this vn again :( Also plz open patreon when you are ready :3
is it dead? :/
If you need something kingsguard related while you wait there's this thing: https://play.aidungeon.com/scenario/843netkCEUL6/kingsguard-vn
its free, no downloads and just plays in the browser. It has some issues, ramos's personality is odd with him knowing who you are even if it's the first time you've met him or being overly romantic. But i don't think it's that bad, leandros is pretty good. If you want it smutty, when you're playing click the little gear in the top right and change the the safety setting in the gameplay tab.
Last update was on June of 2023 on patron and July of 2023 here. Its mostly been a year since the last update. Will this VN go to the dumps or will we get an update?
Well they're patreon is still active the last post was on 3 January. Completed Art of New Character..
Aside from that I have no clue as I'm not a patreon.
Hiddenwall mentioned trying to get a build out over winter holidays since school would be out, but i guess that things ended up getting in the way as they've paused their patreon payments and have been silent for the last few months.
Absolutely fantastic game! Truly one of my all time favorites. I played this entire game (all three paths!) for the first time two years ago, somewhere between 40-50 hours, but lost all of that progress with my old laptop. I just recently replayed it, nervous that it wouldn't be as good as I remembered it to be, but the story, characters, and world are so fantastic, and the amount of genuinely important choices is absolutely astounding; so much more than just the three main romance paths!
My only (minor) issue is a completely subjective, personal ick with stories where an otherwise pragmatic or experienced person close to the protagonist lies/tricks/misleads them under the guise of protecting them in a way that leaves them more vulnerable, especially when it's something related to their self-defense, and refuses to think about the worst case scenario? (It sounds specific, but it's actually pretty common lol). Like, knowledge is power and prepare for the worst case scenario and better to have something but not need it than not have something needed and all that, which is something that someone supposedly an experienced and skilled strategist should know.
I just wanna clarify that this is a very small gripe I have, despite its length, and I am just a very wordy overthinker, so please read knowing that I love literally everything else about this game (besides not being able to date everyone lmao). Also, I disagree with previous comments talking about the MC being unlikeable, so this isn't about that either.
Anyways, I understand why the player's dad and Leandros didn't let the protag actually learn how to fight, that's well explained and I get that it's part of both the protag and Leandros' whole character and stuff, but it just personally bothers me that the protag never actually caught on, for years?The protag never watched Leandros or other guards sparring, or overheard the other guards talking about Leandros being easy on his training, or even just that he is still so outmatched by Leandros despite training together for years since they were children? I know that he's not human and older and specifically tricking him, and the protag can't train as much as he can, but he's still a novice and never noticed? The main character sneaks past the guards to escape that castle to watch gladiator fights, but apparently hasn't ever sparred with any other guard besides Leandros, doesn't seem to have ever wanted to, and never picked up either any hint of this or any techniques from them? And even the pragmatic and more pessimistic Koshiro had absolutely nothing to say about this, just completely went along with it? Like, it would be like if someone really wanted to play a sport but were only allowed to play against one specific professional athlete for years despite being surrounded by other professionals, snuck out to secretly go watch live games, and never picked up on the fact that they're an amateur. It really feels like the protag should have either figured out before all this that Leandros was going easy on him (at least after seeing a few real gladiator fights), or be at least slightly better than they are in the game.
Once again, however, I wanna say that this is really not the biggest deal. I've literally played this game for DOZENS of hours at this point, and something as small as this is the one and only thing that annoys me a little, and it basically just makes me roll my eyes whenever it comes up before I move on and am full sucked back into this amazing story and game.
It never for a second crossed my mind to rate this anything besides five stars, and I'd rate it even higher if I could!!
I NEED AN UPDATE GRRRRRR
Ive been playing for some time (ofc i took leandros path) and all i wanted to say is this Visual Novel is one of the very few that really made me feel the emotions the Main character actually felt, i cried, i was happy, i was sad, i was devastated, and many more emotions, if i get to the end of the free version i will most definitely buy patreon and look forward to the newest versions. Also i'd like to praise all of the people who took part in making this game
Edit: also how much chapters will this game have? If you can tell ofc (unless i missed the info somewhere)
Not gonna lie, protagonist makes it very hard to tear throught this vn. He is so completely unlikable it is very hard to be invested in his struggles or journey. Prince Rowan from The Silercrest Pilgrimage is a much better example of a similar archetype.
I mean. he's a spoiled prince of a prosperous kingdom. one who has had some trauma via the loss of one parent and distance of another. yeah he's gonna be a frustrating little shit at times but he isn't without his redeeming qualities. I think it'll be interesting to watch how he grows through each route^^
Also, given its still in development. I imagine there will probably be a point where things get combed over and refined, potentially even revised. only time will tell.
Tragic backstory doesn’t give a character a shield to be piece of shit, sadly, and so far I haven’t seen even one redeeming quality of his. At this point for me in order to like Katan he has to undergo a redemption arc on the level of Kuzco or Luke von Fabre and Im really not sure i will have patience to stick around to find out if he is going to undergo it at all.
Frankly the VN hasn't gotten very far imo so he has time. Character growth needs time to happen organically in some stories, not every protagonist just flips a switch and becomes bearable after a couple things go down.
I really don't know how or why I should be invested in a growth of a character who needs unknown amount of time only to become *bearable* (and the fact that a vn that was in development since forever still haven't gotten very far is its own separate can of worms). I will just go and read better stories with characters I actually want to root for instead.
Still waiting for Koshiro
Best boy!
wish the shark or the wolf had a route
Hello, would you unlock your Patreon for a new patreons? I would gladly support you, but I can't ;(
according to patreon he's put it on break until april, unless he extends it at that point.
Ok, thank you for replying!
I hope I could become Patreon soon. I'm a big enjoyer of this project and I gladly would support it with my money
Not saying it's bad but for christ sake why is every mc in visual novels either dumb,useless, weak, and burden like come on its all the same
True, but there's still VN which it's the opposite, there's lyre, TOS, LD(I know these game are RPG like), but yeah, it makes the VN bland, no hate ofc, I'm just saying
I agree. So many vns have an MC like that. Its not all that fun when everyone in the vn is bigger, stronger, and more capable than you.
because what you call the mc isn't actually the mc... The king's guard is! You're just seeing them through the eyes of the king.
But if you want a capable mc try the Smoke Room... Sam is a big strapping lad who can take care of himself.
what vns in particular? cuz this sounds like a skill issue to me..
Far beyond world, adastra, roads yet to travel,taste of fire,nekojishi,Santa Lucia,hearthfire.......yeah skill issue.. suuuure
bro, FVNs just ain't for you if you just dumb it down to just that.. i can suggest In Finite Space, One Last Night, Dog x Bloods, Demons Within, Undefeated, Pervader and Blossom City if you really wanted to find VNs that lack the things you dislike... but after that, you probably need to drop reading FVNs because you're going to struggle to find a VN out there to read in which it suits your tastes.. go read an anime or something, or watch a manga instead.. and i particularly love listening to edgy light novels.. go check them out..
when will this game be finished?
Crying sobbing, we need updatesssss, I NEED to know what hAppens when koshiro wakes up WE DIDN'T GET OUR KISS😭
有做成中文的想法嘛呜呜，我也想玩qwq
galgame有汉化
谢谢，我去康康
I just love this VN! I love how the mc personality has some minor changes depending on which route you are taking, specially loved how spoiled he is with Ramos, the contrast between his spoiled self with ramos personality it's really fun to watch and the spicy scenes with him are amazing, seeing a spoiled prince being slutty its always fun, cant wait to see ramos next build, hope we still can get it this year or maybe in january <3
I am loving the game, the moment I laid eyes on Koshiro I knew he was the one and I am having a blast going through his route. There is something about him that I just find really cute and innocent in a way.
This is my favorite VN, I've read it so many times that I lost count, I always follow Leandros' route, he's so interesting, hardworking and cute. I hope Leon gets a happy ending with the main character, who better to be king than a lion? ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
After I unzip the download folder and press the application it doesn't come up, anyone know how to fix this?